The Arkanaut Company – AoS Daily 62

The Arkanaut Company – AoS Daily 62

Today I look at the Arkanuat company. Possibly the most versatile battleline unit in the game.

Skyhooks, Skypikes and Aethermatic Volley Guns make this unit a real star.

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Kharadron Overlords are the custom kings

Kharadron Overlords are the custom kings

The Kharadron Overlords have descended from the skies and are ready to do battle in the mortal realms.

On this episode i talk about how the Kharadron Overlords ar edythe new kings of customisation and will be able to tailor their armies to suit all needs.

A player can use the same army in multiple different styles when using the Kharadron Code. A single list can be played in a number of various ways just by changing the way that you use the code.

I also talk about my favourite artefact from the book and the impact that it can have on large units. The Aethermatic Earbuster can be devastating when your army is build to best use it.  

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Shadespire and Overlords News

Shadespire and Overlords News

The Warhammer Community team have been on fire with the reveals this week and on todays episode I talk about some of the new things that have been shown off to the eager public.

First up is Shadespire and a new faction for the game followed closely by an early look at the Kharadron Overlords Battletome.

Links to things talked about

T-Shirts for SCGT – Send £10 to bencurry@baddice.co.uk for collection at SCGT.  Minimum of 50 orders are needed so get your mates involved too!

The video for the new Underworlds faction

More pics of Shadespire

Kharadron Overlords discussions – http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/8194-behold-the-kharadron-overlords/?page=36

 

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The coolest list at Heat 2 – AoS Daily 59

The coolest list at Heat 2 – AoS Daily 59

I have all the list that were played at Heat 2 last weekend.

My favourite that was at the event is a Nighthuats army used by Adam Turner (GW Kendal Manager)

4x Carin Wraiths
8x 3 Spirit Hosts
2x Mournguls

One of the Mournguls was the general and got the Red Fury command trait, and one of the Carin Wraiths use the Cursed Book artefact.

Adam actually played 60 points down as he forgot to pack one of the Wraths. He finished 34th and qualified for the finals.

You can get in touch with Adam on Twitter @GWKendal or pop into the store and say hi if you are in the area.

The Bad Dice tournament army list archive has been updated and you can find all the Heat 2 army lists in there.

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Squares or Rounds for starting Age Of Sigmar – AoS Daily 58

Squares or Rounds for starting Age Of Sigmar – AoS Daily 58

Bases are important in Age of Sigmar but they need not be a barrier to entry for player considering returning to Warhammer.

On the episode I talk about bases and if and when you should rebase your army.

Check out http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/355-tga-ultimate-guide-to-bases-in-age-of-sigmar/ for a great resource on basing.

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8 South Coast GT Winning Lists converted to Age of Sigmar.

8 South Coast GT Winning Lists converted to Age of Sigmar.

Age of Sigmar might seem still in its infancy, but at the same time (if history is any guide, 4-5 years) it’s not far off half way through the life of the edition.  Over the last 18 months I have been asked repeatedly how well old armies can convert to Age of Sigmar, and if it’s worth rebasing an old army for a tournament. As the game has matured and a ‘meta’ has developed you can see what is needed to make a competitive matched play list.

The 8 South Coast GT Winning Lists.

I wanted to take a look at a comparison between some of the most cutting edge lists of the last few editions of Warhammer and once I started looking into how to do this I came up with the idea, with the 9th SCGT looming,  to take the army lists from the 8 South Coast GT champions and convert them into Age of Sigmar, with surprising results.

Please bear in mind that all the lists below were also packed with magic items, and in some cases (Ben Johnson 2012 for example) they came in at as much as 15-20% of the army points total, having said that, the armies were often 2400 points compared to the 2000 points that we are playing currently in Matched Play events.

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SCGT 2009

The very first South Coast GT winner was Michael Biggs in 2009. This was 7th Edition Warhammer Fantasy Battle and his ‘4 Herald’ Deamon list was at the time a huge departure from the traditional way of playing Demons of Chaos.  Almost every other Daemons army included a Bloodthirster and blocks of Plague Bearers were considered too slow to be competitive.  Even the Herald on chariot was an edge choice in the terms of power level.

Micheal Biggs 2009 –  7th Edition Daemons of Chaos

  • Tzeentch herald on Chariot
  • Tzeentch herald herald on foot
  • Khorne Herald on Juggernaught
  • Herald of Nurgle on Palanquin
  • 2x 10 horrors
  • 2x 5 furies
  • 20 Plague Bearers, re-roll wounds banner.
  • 2x 5 Flesh hounds
  • 6 Flamers
  • 3 Screamers
  • 1 Fiend of Slannesh

 

Age of Sigmar Daemons of Chaos

If we were to convert this army to Age of Sigmar then this is how the list would look:

  • Epidemius (180)
  • Herald Of Tzeentch On Burning Chariot (200)
  • Herald of Tzeentch (120)
  • Skull master, Herald of Khorne (100)
  • Furies x 5 (60)
  • Furies x 5 (60)
  • Plaguebearers Of Nurgle x 20 (200)
  • Screamers Of Tzeentch x 3 (140)
  • Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch x 10 (140)
  • Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch x 10 (140)
  • Flamers Of Tzeentch x 6 (400)
  • Fiends Of Slaanesh x 1 (60)
  • Flesh Hounds x 5 (100)
  • Flesh Hounds x 5 (100)

Amazingly, this is the first list and it comes in at exactly 2000 points.

It is fully legal in the Generals Handbook with 3 Battleline units and seems to have a good mix of units to be able to move quickly around the table dealing damage and getting stuck into combats.

I would not call this an Age of Sigmar top power level list but it certainly has the tools to compete in a wide range of battle plans.

SCGT 2010

At the South Coast GT 2010 Anthony managed to squeeze out 1st place from Ben Johnson on soft scores.  A lesser known and remembered fact is that the same list came in 3rd place used by Tom Hall.

Ant Spiers 2010 – 7th Edition Dark Elfs

  • Lv4 Sorceress Metal
  • Lv1 Sorceress Dark
  • Assassin
  • 20 Black guard
  • 2x 20 spearmen
  • Cauldron of Blood
  • 10 Repeater crossbow elfs
  • 5 harpies
  • 2x 7 shades
  • Hydra
  • 2 bolt throwers
  • 5 Dark Riders (reports from this list are not great.  If anyone can remember the exact list please let me know.  I know for sure that Tom Hall used the Dark Riders (with shields in fact) but I’m unable to confirm if they were also in Ants list.

Age of Sigmar Dark Aelfs

An Order army of this theme will be chosen from a few different factions, Shadowblades, Darkling Coven, Order Sepentis, and compendium Dark Elves

  • Sorceress (80)
  • Sorceress (80)
  • Assassin (80)
  • 20 Black guard (360)
  • 20 Dreadspears (160)
  • 20 Dreadspears (160)
  • Cauldron of Blood (220)
  • 10 Darkshards (100)
  • 5 harpies (60)
  • 5 Shades (100)
  • 5 shades (100)
  • Hydra (240)
  • 2 bolt throwers (240)
  • 5 Dark Riders (140)

The total comes in at 2120.  If I drop the Dark Riders that I am unsure about then it’s 1980.  This list is once again legal in the Generals Handook matched play.

While I’d be happy to use this sort of army I can’t help but think that the Cauldron Of Blood stands out as a poor choice due to all of its abilities being related to the Daughters of Khanie and this is the only unit in the army from that faction.

I would possibly look at swapping out the Cauldron for a Dreadlord on Dragon.  He’s only 120 points more so it shouldn’t be too hard to juggle some units slightly to make it fit.

Overall it is possible to make this list in Age of Sigmar but it relies heavily on units that are no longer available.  This is fine if you want to use the compendiums (they all have points in the Generals Handbook and are found in the Age of Sigmar App) but it requires a few changes to be played with the current range.  Start with switching the shades for Dark Shards and you can free up points from the Bolt Throwers and Harpies to fit in the Dragon.

I like the feel of this list on paper. It has 3 large blocks of troops, 2 monsters, some shooting and magic support. The dragon and Hydra have the ability to chase objectives and apply pressure across the table where needed.  The Spears are solid for defending objectives and the Black Guard are a scary unit that has to be dealt with so will soak up fire.

SCGT 2011

South Coast GT 2011 was the year that I won the event.  This Dark Elf list was one of the best lists I used across all editions of warhammer.  While my 2008/9 Dragon /shades and assassins army was probably more powerful I think this list offered a better game to your opponent while still being able to get the results.

It also helped that I played 200+ games with this list or variants of it. When I won the SCGT it was the 4th event in a row where I used this list and won the event (Mersey Meltdown, Midlands Open, Maelstrom Games Team event,  and SCGT) and only the fact that the rankings at that time didn’t include team events stopped me getting the fabled 400 rankings points.

Ben Curry 2011 – 8th Edition Dark Elfs (7th Edition Amy Book)

  • Supreme Sorceress – Shadow Magic (mind razor)
  • Lv2 Sorceress
  • Pegasus Riding Masters with BSB
  • Cauldron Of Blood
  • 20 Spearman
  • 30 Corsairs, Standard of the Sea Serpent (frenzy)
  • 20 Black Guard
  • 5 Dark Riders
  • 1 Hydra
  • 5 Harpies

When converting this list to Age of Sigmar the first thing that jumps out is that it seems like it could still work.  There are a few small tweaks required to play with the Grand Alliance: Order rather than the compendium but I feel it can work very well as the basis for a list.

The model count converts quite well due to the fact that there was a very high percentage of point in Magic Items in the original list.

Age of Sigmar Dark Aelfs

  • Sorceress (80)
  • Sorceress (80)
  • Master with Battle Standard (80)
  • Cauldron Of Blood (240)
  • 20 Dreadspears (160)
  • 20 Black Guard (360)
  • 30 Corsairs (300)
  • 5 Dark Riders (140)
  • 5 Harpies (60)
  • War Hydra (240)
  • 1740

The cauldron of blood once again stands out as an unusual addition but switching the corsairs to Witch Elves or using the spare points to try and fit in some extra witch elves could be a great option.

The time I’ve spent looking at this list has got me thinking about rebasing my Aelves. I can see a Darkling Coven in my future.

South Coast GT 2012

The 2012 South Coast GT was won by Ben Johnson and his Skaven army.

This Screaming Bell list defined a meta for a large portion of 8th Edition.  It was partially in response to my 2011 Dark Elf army and also the other armies that rose up to compete with those Dark Elves and similar lists at the time.  Its interesting to see that for the 2 years prior there were almost no Screaming Bells on the tournament scene and the games shifted in one direction it allowed an army book that had no releases for a number of years to get back into a position of power.  An evolving meta like this is in my opinion the sign of a healthy game.

Ben Johnson – 8th Edition Skaven

  • Grey Seer on Screaming Bell
  • Warlock Engineer
  • Warlock Engineer
  • Warlock Engineer
  • Chieftain, Battle Standard
  • 35 Stormvermin, Poisoned Wind Mortar
  • 2 X 40 Skavenslaves
  • 39 Skavenslaves
  • 3 X 5 Giant Rats + Packmaster
  • 2 X 9 Gutter Runners
  • Hell Pit Abomination, Warpstone spikes
  • Doom Wheel
  • Plagueclaw Catapult
  • Warp Lightning Cannon

The Skaven in Age of Sigmar are an odd Faction/Race.  They have been split into numerous subfactions and some key areas of Ben’s original list are no longer available.  Slaves and the Battle Standard are both gone from the Grand Alliance: Chaos book and are available to use in the compendiums, but unlike Anthony’s list I think this army is easily updated just by switching the Slaves to Clanrats and either removing the BSB or swapping him to a warlord.

Age of Sigmar Skaven

  • Screaming Bell (260)
  • Warlock Engineer (100)
  • Warlock Engineer (100)
  • 40 Clan Rats (240)
  • 40 Clan Rats (240)
  • 40 Clan Rats (240)
  • 30 Storm Vermin (420)
  • Hell Pit Abomination (300)
  • Doomwheel (140)
  • Warp Lightening Cannon (180)
  • Plagueclaw Catapult (180)
  • 2400 points

The Age of Sigmar version of this army comes in at the exact same points as the 8th edition version and is an excellent example of how the points per model (generally, across Age Of Sigmar) has increased slightly but the lack of magic items and upgrades brings this back into line.

I think that this list could easily be trimmed back to 2000 points and actually be quite a powerhouse in the Generals Handbook scenarios with a good balance of unit types and large scoring units.

SCGT 2013

Never have so many people been so happy to see an army and person win an event.

When Andi won the tournament Warriors of Chaos were rampant and this list was a perfect counter.   I seem to remember this being 2600 or 2800 points in 8th edition due to the comp pack awarding more points to the ‘weaker’ armies

Andy Avery 2013

  • Lord Black Orc Warboss
  • Night Goblin Great Shaman, Level 4, ironcurse icon, Shrieking blade
  • Goblin big boss, BSB, Light armour, Shield, Spider Banner
  • Night Goblin big boss, Great weapon
  • Night Goblin big boss, Great weapon
  • Night Goblin big boss, Great weapon
  • Orc shaman, Level 2 (35), Dispel scroll
  • Orc shaman, Level 2
  • 5 Goblin wolf riders, Spears, Shields, Musician
  • 5 Goblin wolf riders, Spears, Shields, Musician
  • 20 Night goblins, Bows, Musician
  • 99 Night goblins, Bows, Full command, Netters,
  • 3x fanatics
  • 8 Common trolls
  • Mangler squig
  • Mangler squig
  • Doom Diver
  • Doom Diver
  • Rock lobba
  • Rock lobba
  • Pump wagon
  • Pump Wagon

AGE OF SIGMAR GREENSKINZ

Can anyone say MOONCLAN!

This style of army is currently very popular in Age of Sigmar. The great Moonclan is much used battalion and this list has nearly all the units needed to make the switch and be a powerhouse of an army in the Generals Handbook.

Andi’s original list comes in at way over points for the Generals Handbook.  Somewhere in the realms of 3000 points.

To make it it and be an excellent Age of Sigmar army, using only these models I would field this army:

  • Allegiance: Destruction
  • Grot Warboss (80)
  • – Git Cuttas 
  • Moonclan Grot Shaman (60)
  • Moonclan Grot Shaman (60)
  • 40 x Moonclan Grots (240)
  • – Pokin Spears & Moon Shields 
  • 40 x Moonclan Grots (240)
  • – Pokin Spears & Moon Shields 
  • 40 x Moonclan Grots (240)
  • – Pokin Spears & Moon Shields 
  • 3 x Grot Fanatics (90)
  • 1 x Snotling Pump Wagons (60)
  • Mangler Squigs (240)
  • Mangler Squigs (240)
  • Doom Diver Catapult (120)
  • Doom Diver Catapult (120)
  • Grot Rock Lobber (100)
  • Grot Rock Lobber (100)
  • Total: 1990/2000

Robert ‘Sedge’ Sedgeman 2014

The South Coast GT 2014 rules pack went some was towards mixing things up a little and Sedge turned up with an unexpected list that ticked all the right boxes and managed to take it out.

  • Slaughtermaster
  • Bruiser: Battle Standard
  • Butcher:
  • Hunter
  • 8 Ogres:
  • 7 Ironguts
  • 6 Maneaters
  • 1 Sabretusk Pack
  • 1 Sabretusk Pack
  • Gorger
  • Gorger
  • Ironblaster
  • Ironblaster
    • 2,399 points

Age of Sigmar Destruction Oggors

This is another list that comes in high when converted directly over to Age of Sigmar. It also lack the basic 3 battle line units required for a legal list.  Its not too difficult to make a few alterations and cut out a few options tho get a playable army that looks like it could be surprisingly good.  You will end up with still needing a 3rd battle line unit, but you have the choice of where to make that switch depending on which units you like the look and play of.  The Ironguts are going to be a big part of this list, but the Ironblasters could easily be swapped for more Oggors.

  • Bruiser Standard Bearer (140)
  • Butcher (140)
  • Icebrow Hunter (160)
  • 3 x Ogors (120)
  • 3 x Ogors (120)
  • 6 x Ironguts (440)
  • 1 x Ironblaster (160)
  • 1 x Ironblaster (160)
  • 1 x Gorgers (60)
  • 1 x Gorgers (60)
  • 6 x Maneaters (440)
  • Total: 2000/2000

Luke Morton 2015

In 2015 Luke scored 500 rankings points including 100 points for first place at SCGT.  This was the final Warhammer Fantasy South Coast GT.

This sort of list was very popular at the time and is possibly even more no now in Age of Sigmar.

  • Kairos Fateweaver
  • Herald of Slaanesh on Steed of Slannesh
  • Hearald of Nurgle, Palanquin
  • Herald of Nurgle BSB, Armour Piercing Banner
  • 23 Plague Bearers, Full Command
  • 2x 10 Horrors
  • 3 Blood Crushers, Standard.

Chaos Daemons in Age of Sigmar

Lukes list comes in very low in matched play, only 1100 points.  (or I have not been able to find the full list!) But it has the making of a good list and is crying out for 9 Skyfires and a Shaman

  • Kairos Fateweaver (340)
  • Herald Of Slaanesh (60)
  • Epidemius (180)
  • Herald Of Nurgle (100)
  • Battleline
  • 20 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (200)
  • 3 x Bloodcrushers (160)
  • – Khorne Daemon Battleline (Skullmaster Herald of Khornel)
  • Units
  • 10 x Horrors Of Tzeentch (140)
  • 10 x Horrors Of Tzeentch (140)
  • Total: 1320/2000

Rob ‘Warhammer TV’ Symes 2016

The last event leads us onto the first South Coast GT in Age of Sigmar.  This list was pointed up with the SCGT Pool points and includes a ‘sideboard’ of points so changes could be made at the table.

  • Goblin Big Boss on Gigantic Spider
  • 30 Forest Goblin Spider Riders
  • 3 Arachnarok Spider with Spidershrine
  • 3 Thundertusk
  • Stonehorn
  • Spiderfang Venom Mob battalion.

The battalion is the key to this list and you can still fit it into a 2000 points army under the generals handbook.

Can you fit an old army into Age of Sigmar? 

So as you can see the answer to this is a resounding YES!  If you are on the fence about Age of Sigmar and are wondering if you have an old army that could be using to get in some games and test out if you like to play this new system it is certainly an option without feeling that you will just get walked all over by better and newer lists.

If you want to keep up with the top power armies and the shifting meta the you will almost certainly need to buy new models and keep adding the best options to your army but to get started and maybe jump into an event without feeling entirely outgunned an old army is a fantastic option.

If you enjoyed reading this and want to get some more info about Age of Sigmar army lists you can choice out the Bad Dice Tournament army list archive and also listen to our episode all about the gaming community and how you can get involved in a gaming club.

One final note on the ‘tactics’ of Age of Sigmar.  if you have ever wondered how in-depth 4 pages of rules can be, it goes a long way to showing that when you look at the best players from 8 years of the world biggest Warhammer singles event and look at how they are performing in Age of Sigmar.  Of the 7 non-AoS winners 3 of us are still playing Age of Sigmar.   I came 3rd at a recent Games Workshop GT heat.  Ben Johnson recently won Blood and Glory then cleaned up at Adepticon and Rob Sedgeman won the Games Workshop Warlords event.

It goes to show that the strategy, tactics and skills that were so important in older editions of warhammer are still present in Age of Sigmar and waiting for you to jump in.

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