BDP 120 – High Elves Army Review

High Elves Army Review

High Elves Army Review

This episode is our High Elves Army Review. We are joined by Pasha Korniyenko who is a long time High Elves player.

Fortnight in Fantasy

Before we dive into the review we have a quick chat about the prep we are all doing for the Sheffield Slaughter.

High Elves Review

The 4 of us go through the High Elf book giving thoughts on the various units and how to get the best from them in the game.

We talk about the best combos and army builds as well as picking out the less popular units and how you could make them work.

On the show we talk about Pash’s army from the Masters and also Sheffield, here are those lists.

Sheffield:

  • Anointed On Frostheart Pheonix
  • BSB on Steed
  • 2x Mages on Steed
  • 13 Silver Helms
  • 2x 5 Reavers
  • 3 Bolt Thowers
  • Frostheart Phoenix

Masters

  • Prince: Moon Dragon; lance; shield; Dragon armour.
  • Noble: Great Eagle; lance; heavy armour; lion cloak; Battle Standard.
  • Mage: Lv2; Light.
  • Mage: Lv2; High.
  • 13 Archers: mu; st. 13 Archers: mu; st.
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers: Harbinger; bows.
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers: Harbinger; st; bows.
  • 18 White Lions of Chrace: FC
  • Frostheart Phoenix

We also mention the army that Tom Mawdsley has been using recently

Tom’s Masters List:

  • Loremaster
  • Lothern Sea Helm: BSB. Mage: Lv2 Light.
  • Mage: Lv2 Light.
  • 20 Archers: mu; st. 5 Ellyrian Reavers: spears; bows.
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers: spears; bows.
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers: spears; bows.
  • 28 White Lions: FC.
  • 3x Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower
  • Great Eagle

Gareths Query Corner

This weeks Query Corner is High Elf Themed!

Close

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BDD 259 – Warhammer Quest and Mailbag

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Warhammer Quest & Mailbag

In this episode I talk about the Warhammer Quest app for iPhone and iPad that was released today and also take a question from the mail bag.

Richard Harriss asked how to create a High Elf army on a budget.

Hi Ben,

I am looking to start a new HE army, but would like to do so on a relatively tight budget. I would like to use two Island of Blood sets to form the core of the army and then buy some additional units to fill it out. My question is if you had to use these models as the core what would you add to the army to make it competitive? I was wondering would you be able to a daily podcast based around this idea? Also maybe you could cover what you would add to the skaven to bulk them up; potentially this could allow someone to acquire two armies for relatively little investment in cash. This idea could then maybe also be extended to other armies, so you start with two battalion sets and then talk about what you would add to round out a decent army.

I covered expanding a Skaven army based on the Island of Blood set so this time I do it with High Elves.

Starting with 2 sets of Island of Blood you can add a Battlion and a Phoenix to get:

Archmage
Mage
Noble on Griffon
30 Lothern Sea Guard, Full Command
30 Lothern Sea Guard, Full Command
5 Reavers
5 Reavers
8 Silver Helms
20 Swordmasters, Full Command
Tiranoc Chariot
Pheonix
Great Eagle

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BDP 105 – High Elves Army First Impressions

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High Elves Army First Impressions

In this episode we give our first impressions of the High Elves army. This is by no means a full on in-depth review. We talk about what in the new book is catching our eye and seems fun to use and powerful in the game. We talk a little about the background of the high elves, we write some lists and then take some listeners questions in Gareths Querey corner. To kick things off we cover what we have been up to in the hobby over the past 2 weeks.

Fortnight in Fantasy

On this episode we have a small change to the way Fortnight in fantasy is going to run. Instead of going around the table based on topic, we go around person by person and first up is Mark.

Mark

Gaming – No gaming since AdeptiCon
Painting – Painting Orcs, finished 1 Troll and 3 Snotling Bases
Other – LARPing
Coming Up – Warhammer Achievements

Gareth

Gaming – Played Vampires vs Warriors of Chaos and rocked the Double Terrorghiests and has some ideas about his list.
Painting – HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Other – Had his birthday and went to see the latest Star Trek movie
Coming Up – Warhammer Achievements

Ben

Gaming – 2 games in this last fortnight against Ben Johnson and Adam Hall. Both with High Elves against Daemons.
Painting – The Hellcannon is getting som e more progress and some of the swag bag models from AdeptiCon have been started.
Other – Ben has been listening to the Wheel of Time series on Audible and is up to book 6.
Coming Up – Warhammer Achievements

High Elves

We start with a summary of the High Elves back story. Then move on to our thoughts on the new book and units.

We have a run down the various segment in the book and talk about what we think is Hot or Not. This is by no means a full high elf review, but a chat abou the parts of the book that is exciting us and why we like it.

High Elves Lists

Gareth wants to rock a Tecils and Tripple Pheonix list. Ben and Mark put him on the spot to find out which 8 spells he would choose to take on Tecilis.

Teclis: Lores of Battle Magic
Caradryan
Ashtari (Frostheart Phoenix)
Noble: heavy armour; Battle Standard.
15 Archers
15 Archers
30 Spearmen: Sentinel; standard bearer.
15 Phoenix Guard: Keeper of the Flame; standard bearer.
5 Dragon Princes of Caledor
Flamespyre Phoenix
Flamespyre Phoenix

Mark went down the MSU approach and tried to get in as many units as he could.

Anointed of Asuryan: Star Lance; Other Tricksters Shard; Golden Crown of Atrazar; Enchanted Shield.
Flamespyre Phoenix
Noble: Charmed Shield; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding); lance; Dragon armour; Battle Standard.
Mage: Level 2 Wizard. High Magic
Mage: Dispel Scroll; Level 2 Wizard. High Magic
10 Archers
10 Archers
5 Silver Helms: shields.
5 Silver Helms: musician; shields.
5 Ellyrian Reavers
5 Ellyrian Reavers
5 Swordmasters of Hoeth
5 Swordmasters of Hoeth
5 Swordmasters of Hoeth
5 Dragon Princes of Caledor: standard bearer gleaming pennant
Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower
Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower
5 Sisters of Avelorn
Frostheart Phoenix
1 Great Eagle
1 Great Eagle

Ben went the more traditional mixed arms list and talked about the list that he used in he 2 games this week.

Loremaster: Book of Hoeth.
Archmage: Dispel Scroll; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Shadow; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding).
Noble: Dawnstone; The Reaver Bow; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding); halberd; Dragon armour; shield; Battle Standard.
30 Archers: musician.
15 Archers: musician.
5 Silver Helms
5 Silver Helms
5 Ellyrian Reavers: bows.
11 Dragon Princes of Caledor: Drakemaster; musician; standard bearer (Banner of the World Dragon).
Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower
Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower
Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower
Flamespyre Phoenix
5 Sisters of Avelorn

Gareths Query Corner

Luke Rowlands asks if 3 High Elf archmages are a viable choice. Michael Jordal wants to know what random things can hit friendly units. Robin Erikens has a question about Swordmasters. Empire detachments and Night Goblin Fanatics, how do they score points? Scotland want a 2nd ETC team. How does Great Reach work in 8th Edition, more unmodified leadership questions. Andrew Sherman from Ohiohammer wants us to fix his plastic crack habit. Ryan ask s about BSB’s and Michael asks about Hellcannons in combat. Roland Young wants to know about flaming more than once per turn and lots lots more in this bumper GQC segment

Close

So that wraps up another episode. A huge thanks to all the guys that supported the show, Russ, Curtis and the guys from Hammers of War.

Right after this episode we recorded a bonus episode for the Snake Eyes members. Gareth and Ben talked about the Call To War tournament and the last ever event at the Eye of the Storm. You can sign up to snake eyes at baddice.co.uk/snakeyes

Shout Outs!

We have a couple of shout outs to do in this episode.

Russ Castrovano sent us a goodie bag for our 100th birthday (a little late but who cares!!!) including a Purple Huskey Tee for Gareth.

Curtis Smith wants to promote the Bad Dice Amazon Affiliate link! When ever you shop at Amazon go via our link on the Bad Dice Support page an we get a bit of commission. Curtis wanted us to talk about this on the episode!

Finally, the guys from the Hammers Of War documentary wanted us to promote their indegogo campaign.

“Back in 2011, a guy named Dave Hiatt made a documentary called “Hammers of War,” which can be found on Youtube, for his film school senior project. He only had 17 minutes to show a 40K tournament and the passion the players had for their hobby, which turned out to not be enough time. Skip ahead to 2013, Dave and his brother Dan are looking to make a feature length sequel called “The Love of War.” They’re looking for help funding the project through Indiegogo. Please search for “The Love of War” on Indiegogo.com, and if you like what you see, donate to the cause, and share the link with your friends!” All help, whether financially or otherwise is greatly appreciated.”

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Segment Times

Fortnight in Fantasy – 9:00
Mark – 9:30
Gareth – 1 6:50
Ben – 23:00
High Elves First Impressions – 43:00
High Elves Lists – 1.35:00
Gareth’s Query Corner – 2.04:00

BDD 250 – WWCD High Elves Monster Lists

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WWCD High Elves Monster Lists

I couldn’t let the High Elves release ‘fly’ by (see the pun….) without doing a high elves monster lists review, so in this episode I talk about some of the options that you have for putting out a full on high elves monster list  and the book has a few different kinds of list that could work.

In all the lists the core section will be very similar. I would look at taking large Silver Helm unit for mobile steadfast breaking and then some reavers to back it up.

20 Silver Helms, Full Command
5 Reavers, Bows
5 reavers, Bows

610 points

Flames of Ulthuan

  • Anointed of Asuryan
  • • Frostheart Phoenix
  • Caradryan
  • • Ashtari (Frostheart Phoenix)
  • 20 Silver Helms: High Helm; musician; standard bearer.
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers
  • Lothern Skycutter
  • Lothern Skycutter
  • Lothern Skycutter
  • Frostheart Phoenix
  • Frostheart Phoenix
  • 1 Great Eagle
  • 1 Great Eagle

Here Be Dragons

  • Prince: Star Dragon.
  • Dragon Mage of Caledor
  • Noble: Banner of the World Dragon; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding); Dragon armour; shield.
  • 20 Silver Helms: High Helm; musician; standard bearer.
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers
  • 9 Dragon Princes of Caledor: Drakemaster; musician; standard bearer.
  • Flamespyre Phoenix
  • Flamespyre Phoenix

A Pride of Griffons

  • Prince: Griffon; halberd.
  • Prince: Griffon; halberd.
  • Noble: Griffon.
  • Noble: Griffon.
  • 20 Silver Helms: High Helm; musician; standard bearer.
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers
  • 1 Tiranoc Chariot
  • 1 Tiranoc Chariot
  • 1 Tiranoc Chariot
  • Frostheart Phoenix
  • Frostheart Phoenix

High Elves do Mario Kart

  • Noble
  • • Tiranoc Chariot
  • Noble 
  • • Tiranoc Chariot
  • Noble 
  • • Tiranoc Chariot
  • 20 Silver Helms: High Helm; musician; standard bearer.
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers 
  • 5 Ellyrian Reavers 
  • 3 Tiranoc Chariots 
  • 3 Tiranoc Chariots 
  • 3 Tiranoc Chariots 
  • Lothern Skycutter 
  • Lothern Skycutter 
  • Lothern Skycutter 
  • Lion Chariot of Chrace 
  • Lion Chariot of Chrace 
  • Lion Chariot of Chrace

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BDD 247 – Top 5 High Elves Shooting Units

Top 5 High Elves Shooting Units

In the High Elves army list you can get some great support shooting units for less than 150 points.  In this episode I will give my top 5 from those choices.

The units I talk about in this episode are;

  • Eagle Claw Bolt Throwers
  • Shadow Warriors
  • Sisters of Averlorn
  • Sky Cutter Chariots
  • Nobles, Seahelms and Handmadiens

Can you guess at my order?

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I look forwards to hearing what you have to say!

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“Back in 2011, a guy named Dave Hiatt made a documentary called “Hammers of War,” which can be found on Youtube, for his film school senior project. He only had 17 minutes to show a 40K tournament and the passion the players had for their hobby, which turned out to not be enough time. Skip ahead to 2013, Dave and his brother Dan are looking to make a feature length sequel called “The Love of War.” They’re looking for help funding the project through Indiegogo. Please search for “The Love of War” on Indiegogo.com, and if you like what you see, donate to the cause, and share the link with your friends!” All help, whether financially or otherwise is greatly appreciated.”

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BDD 245 – WWCD High Elves

What Would Curry Do – High Elves

On todays episode I talk about the list that I would initially be using if I were to make the jump into high elves.

The power in the book seems to me to come in a couple of ways.

1. Fast attack flyers.

This style of list will be fast and furious and be driven by the flying large targets. it will unfortunatly also be quite fragile and ultimatly I feel that Warriors of Chaos do this list better.

2. Flexible Combined Arms

I don’t think that this style of list will win any awards for out and out power, but it screams to me of similarities to the old powerful elf builds. Flexibility to have an answer for mosth things yet no out right power that would attract the attention of the dreaded comp stick.

The list I would run to begin with would be the 2nd style and look something like this:

  • Archmage, Lv4, Book Of Hoeth, Shadow
  • Loremaster ,Dispel Scroll
  • Noble, BSB, Reaver Bow, Potion of Strength
  • 10 Archers, Mu
  • 10 Archers, Mu
  • 10 Archers, Mu
  • 5 Reavers, Bows + Spear
  • 5 Reavers, Bows + Spear
  • 5 Reavers, Bows
  • 28 Swordmasters, Full Command, Banner Of The World Dragon
  • 5 Shadow Warriors
  • 2x Eagle Claw Bolt Throwers
  • 2x Flamespyre Phoenix

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